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	<title>Comments for Daniel Ellsberg&#039;s Website</title>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;The Most Dangerous Man in America&#8221; Nominated for an Oscar by Mikko Koivunen</title>
		<link>http://www.ellsberg.net/archive/the-most-dangerous-man-in-america-nominated-for-an-oscar/comment-page-1#comment-2250</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikko Koivunen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 23:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saw the documentary today on YLE in Finland. Somehow I got the feeling that you are a very lucky man to be alive. And that there are people in America whom deserves a lot of respect, like you do. I wish the best for you in your upcoming life. Thank you for your honesty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw the documentary today on YLE in Finland. Somehow I got the feeling that you are a very lucky man to be alive. And that there are people in America whom deserves a lot of respect, like you do. I wish the best for you in your upcoming life. Thank you for your honesty.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;The Most Dangerous Man in America&#8221; Nominated for an Oscar by Erkka Kannisto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erkka Kannisto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 21:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truly amazing story. As a representative of a younger generation this really stopped me to think. If put in such a position, where you are forced to choose between your consience and a compromise, even if the outcome is not so grand, one should recognize, that with this given life you may not get another chance. I think I have become more aware of personal responsibility that comes with being able to vote. Greetings from Finland to Mr. Ellsberg.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truly amazing story. As a representative of a younger generation this really stopped me to think. If put in such a position, where you are forced to choose between your consience and a compromise, even if the outcome is not so grand, one should recognize, that with this given life you may not get another chance. I think I have become more aware of personal responsibility that comes with being able to vote. Greetings from Finland to Mr. Ellsberg.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Daniel Ellsberg Speaks With Matthew Hoh on Afghanistan by David</title>
		<link>http://www.ellsberg.net/archive/daniel-ellsberg-speaks-with-matthew-hoh-on-afghanistan/comment-page-1#comment-2245</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 22:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Viet Nam vet myself,  I  totally agree with Mr. Ellsberg: as Americans, it is our birthright to speak out against oppression, especially that which emanates from within our own ranks. The  Founding Fathers were revolutionary in their Zeal, their commitment to Freedom, and the soul-searching that this process entails. Too many Americans today think -- for whatever reasons -- that their Constitutional duty is to keep silent. This is the path of the slave and the servant.  Thanks again Mr. Ellsberg.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Viet Nam vet myself,  I  totally agree with Mr. Ellsberg: as Americans, it is our birthright to speak out against oppression, especially that which emanates from within our own ranks. The  Founding Fathers were revolutionary in their Zeal, their commitment to Freedom, and the soul-searching that this process entails. Too many Americans today think &#8212; for whatever reasons &#8212; that their Constitutional duty is to keep silent. This is the path of the slave and the servant.  Thanks again Mr. Ellsberg.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;The Most Dangerous Man in America&#8221; Nominated for an Oscar by Vanesa Curry</title>
		<link>http://www.ellsberg.net/archive/the-most-dangerous-man-in-america-nominated-for-an-oscar/comment-page-1#comment-2239</link>
		<dc:creator>Vanesa Curry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 22:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Ellsberg, 

It was an honor listening to you today at The New School.  I&#039;m a Latin American graduate student, not a fan of the US, but I think that you are one of the best people I&#039;ve met. We live to learn lessons, nothing more. I&#039;ll dare to say that you had an overwhelming lesson to learn, learned it and did so gracefully and determinately. That in and of itself is enough to inspire anyone who wants to listen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Ellsberg, </p>
<p>It was an honor listening to you today at The New School.  I&#8217;m a Latin American graduate student, not a fan of the US, but I think that you are one of the best people I&#8217;ve met. We live to learn lessons, nothing more. I&#8217;ll dare to say that you had an overwhelming lesson to learn, learned it and did so gracefully and determinately. That in and of itself is enough to inspire anyone who wants to listen.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;The Most Dangerous Man in America&#8221; Nominated for an Oscar by Matt Chanoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Chanoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 21:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr. Ellsberg,

I saw the film and heard you speak in San Francisco last week, but didn&#039;t get a chance to ask my question. I enjoyed the film, and appreciate the courage and integrity you showed during that period. I was also moved by the Vietnamese journalist, who was so emotional he had a difficult time articulating his question, but who basically said &quot;It&#039;s all very well for you to act heroically, but look at the mess you left for us.&quot;  You basically responded &quot;We were never there to make things better for you, and the left is not responsible for the lousy government you were left with.&quot;   That sounds more callow than I&#039;d hope for from you, and I&#039;d like to push a little harder on the point.

Ironically, by the time you leaked the secret history of the war, the actual war had changed significantly.  The Viet Cong might have been an indigenous Southern independence movement earlier, but after Tet, it was a hollowed-out instrument for Hanoi, a &quot;cat&#039;s paw&quot; as the Soviets used to call it (read, for example, Truong Nhu Tang&#039;s book, Vietcong Memoir).    Also by that time, Ho&#039;s balancing act between the Russians and Chinese had collapsed; Hanoi was as close to Moscow as &quot;lips and teeth,&quot;  and the Soviets were conducting a front of the Cold War through a satellite country, pretty much like we were.  Because of those changes, there&#039;s a plausible argument that Vietnamization would have worked.  With U.S. air support, ARVN repelled the &#039;72 spring offensive.  If the U.S. had been politically able to keep funding South Vietnam and providing air support and training, we might have ended up with a real peace deal and a South Vietnam that conceivably developed the way South Korea eventually did, without the gulags and the boat people and the repression and the corruption.  Sure, it could easily have failed too -- the quick collapse of ARVN in 74-75 shows how much work would have to have been done, but, that&#039;s a plausible &quot;what if.&quot;

So honestly, where do you think the morality lies in all this?  Did the U.S. conduct the war immorally?  Sure.  But if our government had told the truth to our citizens, and if our military had operated under proper rules of engagement, would that have satisfied the anti-war movement?  Was it immoral to conduct the cold war through proxies?  I guess, though conducting it directly through nuclear bombs would have been worse.  (And don&#039;t forget, the Marshall Plan also comes under the heading &quot;conducting the cold war by proxy&quot; - it wasn&#039;t all bad conduct.)

Like they say, honesty and integrity are the first victims of war.  You kept yours intact.  You also, like Nixon says in the film, gave comfort and support to the enemy.  

That sound bite you&#039;re famous for &quot;We weren&#039;t on the wrong side; we were the wrong side&quot;  seems disrespectful to all the Catholics who fled repression in the North, all the petit bourgeois who were robbed and journalists who were silenced and Buddhists who couldn&#039;t practice their religion and peasants who were starved and boat people who fled for their lives.  Were they the &quot;wrong side&quot; too?  Like you said, we weren&#039;t in Vietnam to protect them.  But we WERE in Vietnam because we saw a common cause between our desire to stop Soviet expansion and their desire to stop North Vietnamese expansion.    We made promises to those people, and we failed to keep them, and one of the reasons for that failure was your leak of the pentagon papers.

At the end of your talk after the showing, you asked people to come to your blog and suggest ideas about where the film should be shown and how it could make a positive impact.   My suggestion is that you go to Arlington and Irvine and other Vietnamese areas, and you show the film and talk through those issues with people like that journalist.  It wouldn&#039;t be very easy, and you wouldn&#039;t get the kind of adulation that you got here in San Francisco, but you might bring about some actual peace and reconciliation.

Sincerely,

Matt Chanoff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. Ellsberg,</p>
<p>I saw the film and heard you speak in San Francisco last week, but didn&#8217;t get a chance to ask my question. I enjoyed the film, and appreciate the courage and integrity you showed during that period. I was also moved by the Vietnamese journalist, who was so emotional he had a difficult time articulating his question, but who basically said &#8220;It&#8217;s all very well for you to act heroically, but look at the mess you left for us.&#8221;  You basically responded &#8220;We were never there to make things better for you, and the left is not responsible for the lousy government you were left with.&#8221;   That sounds more callow than I&#8217;d hope for from you, and I&#8217;d like to push a little harder on the point.</p>
<p>Ironically, by the time you leaked the secret history of the war, the actual war had changed significantly.  The Viet Cong might have been an indigenous Southern independence movement earlier, but after Tet, it was a hollowed-out instrument for Hanoi, a &#8220;cat&#8217;s paw&#8221; as the Soviets used to call it (read, for example, Truong Nhu Tang&#8217;s book, Vietcong Memoir).    Also by that time, Ho&#8217;s balancing act between the Russians and Chinese had collapsed; Hanoi was as close to Moscow as &#8220;lips and teeth,&#8221;  and the Soviets were conducting a front of the Cold War through a satellite country, pretty much like we were.  Because of those changes, there&#8217;s a plausible argument that Vietnamization would have worked.  With U.S. air support, ARVN repelled the &#8216;72 spring offensive.  If the U.S. had been politically able to keep funding South Vietnam and providing air support and training, we might have ended up with a real peace deal and a South Vietnam that conceivably developed the way South Korea eventually did, without the gulags and the boat people and the repression and the corruption.  Sure, it could easily have failed too &#8212; the quick collapse of ARVN in 74-75 shows how much work would have to have been done, but, that&#8217;s a plausible &#8220;what if.&#8221;</p>
<p>So honestly, where do you think the morality lies in all this?  Did the U.S. conduct the war immorally?  Sure.  But if our government had told the truth to our citizens, and if our military had operated under proper rules of engagement, would that have satisfied the anti-war movement?  Was it immoral to conduct the cold war through proxies?  I guess, though conducting it directly through nuclear bombs would have been worse.  (And don&#8217;t forget, the Marshall Plan also comes under the heading &#8220;conducting the cold war by proxy&#8221; &#8211; it wasn&#8217;t all bad conduct.)</p>
<p>Like they say, honesty and integrity are the first victims of war.  You kept yours intact.  You also, like Nixon says in the film, gave comfort and support to the enemy.  </p>
<p>That sound bite you&#8217;re famous for &#8220;We weren&#8217;t on the wrong side; we were the wrong side&#8221;  seems disrespectful to all the Catholics who fled repression in the North, all the petit bourgeois who were robbed and journalists who were silenced and Buddhists who couldn&#8217;t practice their religion and peasants who were starved and boat people who fled for their lives.  Were they the &#8220;wrong side&#8221; too?  Like you said, we weren&#8217;t in Vietnam to protect them.  But we WERE in Vietnam because we saw a common cause between our desire to stop Soviet expansion and their desire to stop North Vietnamese expansion.    We made promises to those people, and we failed to keep them, and one of the reasons for that failure was your leak of the pentagon papers.</p>
<p>At the end of your talk after the showing, you asked people to come to your blog and suggest ideas about where the film should be shown and how it could make a positive impact.   My suggestion is that you go to Arlington and Irvine and other Vietnamese areas, and you show the film and talk through those issues with people like that journalist.  It wouldn&#8217;t be very easy, and you wouldn&#8217;t get the kind of adulation that you got here in San Francisco, but you might bring about some actual peace and reconciliation.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Matt Chanoff</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;The Most Dangerous Man in America&#8221; Nominated for an Oscar by Rafael Gallegos</title>
		<link>http://www.ellsberg.net/archive/the-most-dangerous-man-in-america-nominated-for-an-oscar/comment-page-1#comment-2236</link>
		<dc:creator>Rafael Gallegos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re an inspiration to us all! Here&#039;s a link to a video we made for our upcoming production of Top Secret: Battle for the Pentagon Papers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf22x5r16Zo

You&#039;re featured prominently. Thank you so much for your work.
Rafael and the gang at NYTW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re an inspiration to us all! Here&#8217;s a link to a video we made for our upcoming production of Top Secret: Battle for the Pentagon Papers.<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf22x5r16Zo" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf22&#215;5r16Zo</a></p>
<p>You&#8217;re featured prominently. Thank you so much for your work.<br />
Rafael and the gang at NYTW</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;The Most Dangerous Man in America&#8221; Nominated for an Oscar by Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 02:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Rufus, and Lauren,  above, but left the film feeling somewhat hopeless.

Domestic policy seems to have grown worse, in both of our coutries, since your gesture.  And I left feeling, partially, that people don&#039;t want to appreciate what is done in their name; that it&#039;s too much, and too hopeless.

Easier, at some level; to let someone else make those choices, those decisions;  to blame them later as needed.

And, as in a game of chess, even when presented with equal intelligence and prospects, we move towards a point of asymmetrical information, by our actions and inactions. 

This desire for &quot;unequalness&quot; has lead to disastrous consequences; for example, a friend of mine who served in the medical corps in Afganistan pointed out to me the number of troops we keep alive, sometimes people who will no longer be able to serve society, or themselves,  due to immensely traumatic injuries. And sometimes at the expense of the native population.

Yet even the hippocratic oath has a built in desire for truth to be valued only by those valued:

&quot;All that may come to my knowledge in the exercise of my profession or in daily commerce with men, which ought not to be spread abroad, I will keep secret and will never reveal.&quot;

But I am inspired by your conviction, your rationality, and your bravery.

Although I am not religous, you have helped restore my faith in the idea of the, &quot;lone voice, crying in the wilderness&quot;: that all should be valued, all have a voice, and be heard.

And that, though a thorny credo, is ideal that resores hope.

(and good luck at the oscars!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Rufus, and Lauren,  above, but left the film feeling somewhat hopeless.</p>
<p>Domestic policy seems to have grown worse, in both of our coutries, since your gesture.  And I left feeling, partially, that people don&#8217;t want to appreciate what is done in their name; that it&#8217;s too much, and too hopeless.</p>
<p>Easier, at some level; to let someone else make those choices, those decisions;  to blame them later as needed.</p>
<p>And, as in a game of chess, even when presented with equal intelligence and prospects, we move towards a point of asymmetrical information, by our actions and inactions. </p>
<p>This desire for &#8220;unequalness&#8221; has lead to disastrous consequences; for example, a friend of mine who served in the medical corps in Afganistan pointed out to me the number of troops we keep alive, sometimes people who will no longer be able to serve society, or themselves,  due to immensely traumatic injuries. And sometimes at the expense of the native population.</p>
<p>Yet even the hippocratic oath has a built in desire for truth to be valued only by those valued:</p>
<p>&#8220;All that may come to my knowledge in the exercise of my profession or in daily commerce with men, which ought not to be spread abroad, I will keep secret and will never reveal.&#8221;</p>
<p>But I am inspired by your conviction, your rationality, and your bravery.</p>
<p>Although I am not religous, you have helped restore my faith in the idea of the, &#8220;lone voice, crying in the wilderness&#8221;: that all should be valued, all have a voice, and be heard.</p>
<p>And that, though a thorny credo, is ideal that resores hope.</p>
<p>(and good luck at the oscars!)</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;The Most Dangerous Man in America&#8221; Nominated for an Oscar by Damian Gonxo Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damian Gonxo Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 23:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome documentary ! just watched it on the BBC.

Thank you for your courage 

...................stay dangerous</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome documentary ! just watched it on the BBC.</p>
<p>Thank you for your courage </p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.stay dangerous</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;The Most Dangerous Man in America: Daniel Ellsberg and the Pentagon Papers&#8221; Premieres in the US This Week by Alan Steadman</title>
		<link>http://www.ellsberg.net/archive/the-most-dangerous-man-in-america-daniel-ellsberg-and-the-pentagon-papers-premieres-in-the-us-this-week/comment-page-1#comment-2232</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Steadman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 12:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saw the film screened on BBC 4 the other night, and as we in the UK are currently being whitewashed by a so-called &#039;independent Iraq Inquiry&#039; and the unapologetic performance by Blair before the panel, can only say, as the push in Afghanistan develops into even greater losses, that the need for clear analysis of how our leaders get us into such conflicts, the on-going real price paid by those involved, plus as Joseph Stiglitz &amp; Linda Bilmes aptly describe it in their book &#039;&#039;The Three Trillion Dollar War&#039; re the staggering long-term costs re the provision of care for the troops maimed for life, one can only say many sincere thanks for the risks you took on behalf of us all - not just the American public in identifying how those in power being economical with the truth affects the world we live in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw the film screened on BBC 4 the other night, and as we in the UK are currently being whitewashed by a so-called &#8216;independent Iraq Inquiry&#8217; and the unapologetic performance by Blair before the panel, can only say, as the push in Afghanistan develops into even greater losses, that the need for clear analysis of how our leaders get us into such conflicts, the on-going real price paid by those involved, plus as Joseph Stiglitz &amp; Linda Bilmes aptly describe it in their book &#8221;The Three Trillion Dollar War&#8217; re the staggering long-term costs re the provision of care for the troops maimed for life, one can only say many sincere thanks for the risks you took on behalf of us all &#8211; not just the American public in identifying how those in power being economical with the truth affects the world we live in.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;The Most Dangerous Man in America&#8221; Nominated for an Oscar by Euphrosene Labon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Euphrosene Labon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 09:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An excellent and compulsive documentary - and one for our times. Loyalty to one&#039;s country is vital but not loyalty to mendacious, self-serving politicians.</description>
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